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Fannish5 Me? :D

So, I was thinking of doing a sort of

fannish5 thing just with my friendslist, to generate more discussion (especially fandom-related!) around here, and also because I was hoping if I can strike upon the right theme now and then, it might generate fic ideas.

So I guess I want to know if any of you are interested and if so, any topic ideas? Obviously it doesn't have to be "top 5" whatevers. I was thinking, among other things: "Which couples or pairings (canon or not) do you like but have yet to write about, and why not? What is it that makes them difficult to translate into fic, or why can you just not find the right story for them?"

Feel free to answer that one anyway if you want to :D All fandoms are a go, even if I don't know them. Say we stick it in the subject line and people can just jump in then?

Like I say, I've no real format but I think we can feel our way through this. Cyn? Noey? Anyone!

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Something I don't think I had experience in before this fandom was character death. It really through me for a loop and though I love the idea of Sei/Moichi, I find it hard to write fic with them now knowing it will have to be considered AU. And I love AU's so I never would've guessed that'd be a problem for me!

I think it's so hard to write an AU for them because so much of it revolves around Moichi's death. Normally I'd be all over them in an AU, either switching canon or in something way over the top like a high school AU. But with this - so much of the rest of the series relies on his death. And I think knowing that Sei dies, and then his brother dies when he turns 20 - I just couldn't write something knowing that basically everyone dies.

Well at least you finished the series! After Moichi's death I just GAVE UP. The only way I can think to swing it, is that Sei's motivation isn't that Moichi dies from the virus(would you call it that? It's been so long since I saw it!), but that he even contracts it at all. That he is put into danger angers Sei so much he takes action before Moichi can actually die. ~~I'd totally read that.~~ But otherwise, yeah, total agreement. Too much swings on the entire plot, if you change it all you lose the actual characterization too.

I would read that too! But I don't think anyone would write it. And how would you solve him not dying from the virus? (Was there a cure for it? I forgot. :x). And you're right - so much of the characterization depends on the plot, because of the motivation and what happens. Change it around, or take it away, and you're left with these characters who are OOC and really have little development.

You're asking ME who did not finish the series and see the conclusion of all plot, if there was a CURE? I am laughing out loud here :P So say Rin had the cure all along, if you're going to be AU, do it in as many small ways as possible ;)

~~If only we could write it~~

I FORGOT. I think there was a cure, but I can't exactly remember all of the details of everything.

YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS IT'S TIME TO WATCH IT AGAIN ;D

AND DEAL WITH HIS DEATH AGAIN? NO THANKS :P

You should watch and remind me :D

I AM ACTUALLY. Though I haven't even gotten past Episode 1 yet. Oh, THE HUG, THE HUG!!!!!!!1!!!!1 *flail*

The hug. >.> It breaks my heart.

I love the idea of Domyouji/Makino, but I can't write them. They are a canon couple, so you'd think it should be easy to write them together. But it's hard to write them, even their thoughts during the series is running, and especially afterwards.

The canon for me, is so much fun to WATCH, but for writing (especially Domyouji/Makino) it's impossible. So much happens so fast, you're trying to squeeze things into tiny moments, and then make sure it fits into the hole timeline. So while I adore HYD, it's not something I can write a whole lot, really.

The canon is lots of fun. And it doesn't feel like it would translate into writing very well, because of everything going on and just trying to capture the feel of it. And then even beyond Domyouji and Makino - there is so much going on with Rui and Makino and Domyouji and Rui and Akira and Sojirou, but there is too much going on to really get into them.

In that respect, at least writing say Soujiroh/Yuki for example (because they are also prominent characters), would be slightly easier because there's a certain amount of time their actions aren't accounted for in any special way.

They would be easier to write. But I still have some trouble with them.

But WHY?! ;)

I think it's because I see little development for them (although the stuff in season 2 did help a lot). And I don't know what becomes of them. It should be open for interpretation, but it's hard to expand beyond the canon, at least for me.

I actually personally really enjoyed that nothing came of it, because as soon as I saw the hints, I was rolling my eyes and thinking, "that's it, magically the best friend of boy and girl also find love together and there's a DOUBLE WEDDING". Well not quite, but you know what I mean. So that he resisted the entire time (and stayed in character!), and that she was pretty persistent but still never actually came out and SAID it, I really enjoyed. So though I like the pairing idea on it's own (because they are both so pretty together COUGH it is a valid excuse!), I'm fine not writing about them together.

You know, I never thought about that. How it doesn't stray into the typical best-friends getting together. I do like that, because that would have just been too much. So I have to agree with you on liking the idea, it would just be hard to write.

Also, I can spell WHOLE. I missed a letter, am not stupid ;)

Yankumi/Shin. They are probably my favorite couple in the series, although they aren't really canon only vaguely hinted at, but they are so hard to write together. And I love student/teacher relationships, but it doesn't make it any easier to write.

I was wondering if you'd strike upon Gokusen. Student/teacher is such a huge kink of mine, so maybe for me it's because it DOESN'T fit the usual cliches? I kind of like the cliches ;) But I still love the idea of Shin/Yankumi anyway. I make no sense :x

I am totally there with you, about liking them and about things making no sense. BUT STILL. Why are they so hard to write together? Even if they don't fit the usual cliche, we should still be able to write for them. Even as characters, individually - and I can't do that.

CAN'T WRITE TOUDOU WITH ANYONE BECAUSE HE IS TOO PERFECT ;)

~~Muhahaha I had to do a cop-out one for fun :D~~

Lame cop out :P. I think it's hard for me to write Toudou/Oka because it's easy to see how much he loves her and how willing he is to do anything for her, but there is no real development for their relationship. Maybe there needs to be something written about them, perhaps set after the special.

Toudou/Chiba/Ozaki is somewhat easier, in any form, because they are friends and you see how they interact. And you know there is something between the three of them, even if it is simply friendship, that ties them together.

What about Ryuzaki/Oka?

Toudou/Chiba/Ozaki though, I felt in the beginning that Chiba wasn't all that close to them, but by the end of the series they've all been thrown together so much [by being so obsessed with the girls team's drama ;)] they end up where they maybe should've started? Though I can't REALLY say that positively about the end since we only just staretd rewatching the beginning episodes.

Ryuzaki/Oka, well it just seems so... Too pure? In a way ;)

We definitely need to rewatch the end so we can get a better grasp on all of them. But especially their relationships. I know Ozaki and Toudou are close in the beginning, but seeing how Chiba interacts and plays off of them would be good.

Too pure and too... something. I'm not entirely sure. It's sp hero-worship on Hiromi's part and for Reika, I am still not sure.

I think when it comes to Oka (and Munakata since they're both intertwined in regards to Reika), Reika's motives are so unclear all the time, I think she is so conflicted herself it's hard to decide what she actually wants all the way through the series. If at all, you could only really resolve it at the end. Which is why I like she and Chiba because all theiri ssues are pre-series ;)

I agree that Hana Yori Dango is hard to write for. I enjoy the series, but I feel that I have nothing to say about Domyouji and Makino. I'd read fic about them in heartbeat, though.

Same thing with manga 'verse Shin/Yankumi. When I write Gokusen fic, it's always heavily influenced by the drama rather than the manga (and I *love* the manga).

Hmm. Coffee Prince is hard to write for, as well. My favourite part of the series is the crossdressing UST, and the angst that comes with it--and that is well covered by the series itself.

Do you think dramas, because they are more action-oriented than a manga (for example a manga can use a wholep age just to scroll down someone's body and create tension that way), they stick with you more when writing for the fandom? Or that real people's faces associated with characters make you picture them that way as opposed to the drawn format? :/

Coffee Prince; I have heard about, and just the crossdressing makes it sound totally like my kind of thing :D

I think it depends how tightly written the drama is. Gokusen is episodic, so there's plenty of room to slip into canon and play around. The events in HYD are pretty tightly organized, so there's less room for anything other than introspection or post-series stories.

Or that real people's faces associated with characters make you picture them that way as opposed to the drawn format?

I actually visualize very little when I'm reading or writing, so that has never been a problem for me.

Coffee Prince; I have heard about, and just the crossdressing makes it sound totally like my kind of thing :D

It was my first drama, so I have very fond memories of it. *g* There's some amazing sexual tension, and such *longing*--and Coffee Prince is one of the few crossdressing stories that really *deals* with the hero freaking out and working through his feelings for another "man." There's also one of the best love confessions *ever.*

It's hard to say anything about Domyouji and Makino that isn't said in canon.

Exactly!

The very thought of attempting Domyouji's voice frightens me. I don't think I could manage him at *all.*

Let's see...

Gundam 00: Lockon/Tieria. Canon events really threw me for a total loop on this one. I was just deciding I really thought it had future potential (but that it was a pairing where neither party had really realised what they felt yet) and then Huge Awful Events happened. I'm still very intrigued by the idea but, hm. As you mentioned above, if I was going to write more than drabbles for it I think it would have to be very very AU.

Terra e...: actually pretty much every pairing in this series. It's a very subtexty show but for some I don't feel as though there needs to be fic to go into more depth for and for others there are weird, weird issues and for some the character death thing happens. I'm very interested in the idea of Keith/Sam, Keith/Matsuka, Jomy/Blue, Keith/Jomy and Tony/Jomy. I don't know where to start with the issues relating to these ones that make my head hurt. Sam seems to love Keith very much but Keith doesn't really do emotions at that stage. He also doesn't do Understanding Human Beings although Sam seems to do a lot to help with that one. But not enough I think. Jomy/Blue is sort of less impossible but there IS a several hundred year age gap to deal with. Er. Keith/Jomy is a weird one and I think AU fic is probably needed to make it work. Tony/Jomy... TONY CALLS JOMY GRANDPA. Jomy is NOT his grandpa, but nonetheless. Ow. He has what someone actually in the series refers to as a "grandpa complex" and Jomy seems incredibly fond of him but I have a hard time imagining Jomy not having... issues with the whole thing. I can't believe I don't have MORE issues with the whole thing. Argh. I'm writing an incredibly vague essay. I'll stop.

Hunter x Hunter: Kuroro/Illumi. This is a cracked pairing anyway, kinda; I think in the series you only see them interact over the phone once or twice (Illumi works for Kuroro on one occasion) but... oh, I don't know. I also ship Kuroro/Hisoka and Illumi/Hisoka so in my mind it's all a bit of a bizarre triangle. I've written Hisoka/Illumi once or twice but only as a vague and mostly one-way thing, where Hisoka pervs on Illumi and Illumi is just... Illumi, which is to say, creepy and unemotional. Not that Hisoka isn't creepy, but. I can see this one happening, actually, in that Illumi could well sleep with Hisoka or Kuroro out of vague curiosity but in terms of emotional attachment I think Illumi honestly only gives a shit about his family. But the way he interacts with Hisoka and the few instances of him having contact with or making reference to Kuroro are sufficiently fascinating somehow... I despair.

...and stuff. *rambly* I also can't read your post properly because I am very very tired, goddamn. Never mind.

Edited 2008-05-25 22:14 (UTC)

I find it almost impossible to write anything for Ozma/Dorothy, even though they are my OTP. Like, probably my ultimate OTP, even. But I haven't been able to write anything for them and I actually have no idea why. It's not because I find it weird to write about something from my childhood (considering what I did write for Oz is even more fucked up than a femmeslash pairing). So I am not sure why.

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